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reflectatine) wrote2020-01-15 04:16 pm
reflectatine) wrote2020-01-15 04:16 pm
[tlv] lie detection opt-in
SO. In canon, Wade has the ability to discern—apparently with total accuracy—when someone is lying to him. This isn't any kind of magic power or superhuman ability, simply (from what I can tell) the result of lifelong trust issues coupled with obsessive tendencies and observational skills. Even in the context of his canon, there are a lot of limitations: if somebody lies by omission or believes what they're telling him is true, it won't set off any alarm bells. (On the show, a member of the white supremacist organization he's actively investigating successfully takes him on a quasi-date then lures him to her base of operations by sticking to what is technically the truth the entire time.)
I'm making this strictly opt-in, though if you want to opt out and would like to come up with an IC reason for it here, I'm super down! On the other hand, if your character habitually lies about something and you're dying for them to be found out, by all means mention it. (I can't promise Wade'll immediately call them out, but he won't forget it.)
ALSO: as far as the network goes, this definitely won't work on audio or text-based communication. I'm inclined to say he'd be able to do it via video, but there's a lot of wiggle room and I'm happy to go with whatever's most interesting for the thread!
I'm making this strictly opt-in, though if you want to opt out and would like to come up with an IC reason for it here, I'm super down! On the other hand, if your character habitually lies about something and you're dying for them to be found out, by all means mention it. (I can't promise Wade'll immediately call them out, but he won't forget it.)
ALSO: as far as the network goes, this definitely won't work on audio or text-based communication. I'm inclined to say he'd be able to do it via video, but there's a lot of wiggle room and I'm happy to go with whatever's most interesting for the thread!
fire's characters
Character name: Bill Cipher, Zim
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? haha god yes, this'll be so fun.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Bill is regularly lying about a lot, we might just want to take that as it comes.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Zim is constantly lying to himself, because he spends his entire life in a state of denial and delusion. I'm sure it appears everything he says is true, because he believes it.
Bill is a con artist who thinks telling people blatantly wrong information is is funny and does it constantly for his own entertainment. He will probably lie 3 times just introducing himself. diagnosis: an asshole.
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Character name: Nina Sergeevna Krilova
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? She's more the "omission" type, but if he catches her actually lying, totally.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? She's had most of her bullshit exposed by now, but there are a couple of lingering things that might end up being useful/of interest. She murdered three people on the Barge back when she was an inmate without ever being caught, so that's something.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Not that much anymore, and as I said, it's mostly omission. But when she does, it's usually for a Reason, so there's definitely shit to work with there.
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Character name: Nick Sax
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Absolutely, and I can't think of anything that would stop him.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? There are things Nick doesn't talk about much, like the fact he has a daughter back home, but no real secrets. What he does lie about--a lot--is how things affect him. He pretends they don't and tends to approach everything with a big dose of sarcasm.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Frequently. Sometimes it's just for fun and he doesn't expect anyone to believe him. Sometimes he does it just to see if anyone will believe him. And sometimes he does it because he wants you to butt the hell out of his business.
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Character name: Iris Wildthyme
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? generally yes, but I might ask to get the occasional one past him when/if she works out how she's doing it.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? There are no Deep Secrets, but she has canonically removed large chunks of her own memory to protect certain secrets. Of course, having done so, she has no idea what those secrets were or who wanted them or why.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie?
She lies a lot, but usually only about inconsequential things. They will be kind lies, at times when all the honesty available is brutal. Sometimes she lies to camouflage gaps in her memories, sometimes the truth is embarrassing and sometimes the lie just makes a more satisfying narrative.
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Character name: Tris Chandler (
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Yes, and nope.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Literally the only lie Tris tells with any regularity is that she's fine when she isn't. My lawful good honest to a fault girl.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Hardly everrrrr
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Character name: Taura (
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Absolutely, go ahead. No defenses.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? She has no secrets here (her only borderline secrets are a shortened lifespan that a bunch of people already know about and some political shit that doesn't mean anything to people who aren't from her universe), and the only things she'd regularly lie about are hurt feelings and vulnerabilities. Even then, she's a terrible liar. It doesn't take superpowers.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Again, only once in a blue moon. I play two very honest women at the moment.
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Character name: Zoe Hange
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Yes! Hange tends to lie by omission or distraction rather than lie outright, but I’ll let you know if she ever lies directly.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? She doesn’t so much lie regularly as skirt certain topics.. so here’s stuff she probably WOULD lie about: the origin of certain monsters that plagued her home world, some element’s of her people’s history, her own rank. I’ll let you know in narration if it comes up!
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Very few direct lies, lots of omission and some misdirection.
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Character name: Xigbar (this journal)
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Provided that his tenuous relationship with existence doesn't get in the way (more on that on his permissions), sure!
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? There are a lot of secrets Xigbar doesn't talk about! Most of them involve KH3 spoilers though (and also possibly spoilers for the DLC that literally just came out today) so while I'm game for those coming to light at some point if you wanna steer clear, that's cool too. As for what he most regularly lies about, that'd probably be that he feels an emotion (he can't, by virtue of being quite literally unable to), but see also the points below.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? So, Xigbar is a cryptic bastard at heart, which means that he's hardly ever being completely truthful about anything. However, he tends to do it in the same sort of way that, say, the fae are traditionally described as working - lies of omission, incomplete truths, doublespeak, and truths hidden behind Very Specific Word choices (that often sound like he's saying something else) are just as common as outright lies. And it should be noted that he's surprisingly good at presenting the image he wants people to see instead of the actual truth, to the point that he manages to fool the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts for the more-than-a-decade that they spent working together.
And for the others....
Character name: Nikola Tesla (
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Sure! The sort of vampire Tesla is is very explicitly not undead, so that wouldn't complicate things any.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Nope! He does have some skeletons in the closet, but I don't think anything would really be gained by bringing them to light.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Not a whole lot, these days. Most of what he's historically tended to lie about have been his motives for doing things, and he's been doing a lot better about that on the Barge.
Character name: Andred (
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Sure! Andred is mildly telepathic (predominantly by touch), but I don't see any reason that would keep Wade from being able to tell if he's lying.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? There are definitely some things in his past that he hasn't spoken about much? But I don't think they're anything that needs to come out either.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Not a whole lot! He's not particularly open about a lot of things, but his tendency is more to clam up than directly lie.
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Character name: Misty Day
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? YES, and nothing off the top of my head!
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? She's died four times (only once on barge and most people don't even know about that'un) and can't quite be sure she isn't still dead, she's very much in possession of a prodigious amount of/affinity for magic, frogs have kind of been ruined for her, she's actually nineteen deeply traumatized opossums shrieking inside a trenchcoat....don't look at her Wade
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Whenever possible she'd like to just dance around entire topics that would lead to situations where she'd prefer lying, and in most situations if asked something point-blank she'll be honest, but boy howdy will she bury that lead. Actual Direct Questions, rarely. Open-ended questions, she'll opt for vagueness that will probably be extra transparently cagey for him.
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Character name: Demona
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Yes! Can't think of any.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? She lies to herself about her own guilty past, but honestly, she's got herself so convinced nothing was her fault that it probably won't set him off.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Whenever she feels like it will gain her something. She an opportunist. She's been surprisingly truthful on the Barge, mostly because she's got nothing to gain by doing otherwise. But she also enjoys manipulating people. If he sees her pulling that shit, he can, by all means, call her out.
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Character name: Harry Goodsir, Dom DiPierro, Nadia Vulvokov
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Go for it. Harry is scrupulously honest for the most part; Dom and Nadia have apparent confidence that covers up a lot of baggage.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Harry has largely accepted that people know stuff about the Franklin Expedition, though he doesn't actively bring it up unless he has to. Dom is desperately lonely and doesn't sleep. Nadia has deep trauma from her experiences with her mentally ill mother, as well as addiction issues.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Harry: rarely. Dom: sometimes, if she thinks it's necessary. Nadia: mostly about her own well-being.
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Character name: Jedao
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? I'm going to go with no, unless Jedao is really off his game. He's from a canon where he's 1) trained to be space dystopia super spy 2) has been lying backwards and forwards to everyone else in the space dystopia, including the guy who keeps performing weird soul surgery on him to make him more docile, and getting away with it until he sets off a total revolution against the whole thing, and 3) has done some deeply weird psychological thing to himself to prevent actual dreamwalking psychic interrogators from getting anything out of him, despite otherwise being vanillish human. Jedao knows how to believe in what he's saying at the moment, and he also just....comes from a completely different universe and culture (it's very much not standard western space opera, it's asian-ish but has its own cultures and subcultures) and his nonverbal communication, both in terms of tells and faking it, isn't a language Wade would have any experience with.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Jedao has been in game over two years now, so most of his deep secrets are out there already. He's got lots of fun stuff that's less buried than it was that can mess with his head, though, so if he's covering his lies less than optimally, I'll definitely let you know in the thread you can pick it up.
CW for sexual assault, highlight to read: One thing that I WOULD like to come up is that Jedao....doesn't lie, but definitely conceals and omits, and even when he does admit it, downplays and speaks tangentially about his history of being sexually assaulted. He still hasn't said the words "rape" or "rapist" out loud, and it would probably be good for him if someone called him out on that, and most of the people who know are erring on the side of being gentle with him. I have NO idea if that's something Wade as a character would push on, or whether you as a player would be up for playing that out, but it's the only hidden thing that I'm actively looking for someone to tug on at the moment.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Actually very rarely! On the barge, he doesn't need to, especially now that he's lost some of his early paranoia and barge events have spilled some of his big secrets already. It happens every once in a while, though. More frequently he just means five different things at once and chooses the one that is most useful to say in that moment.
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Character name:Kahl
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? yes please do omg. Kahl is a dumb baby god but he knows nothing about hiding his feelings
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Kahl's most regular lies are probably the kind you tell yourself badly, like "I'm totally not sad about my dad killing me to save the universe, I'm just ANGRY and I hate him and I DON'T WISH HE LOVED ME AT ALL." Ahem. Kahl is a dramatic teenager who just happens to have actually lived on a scope to match the amount of drama teenagers usually feel.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? ALSO RARELY, but (other than the aforementioned Feelings Dumbassery), when he does it's typically malicious. Kahl is the god of Vengeance, and he has a weird honorable/philosophical streak. He can be eerily straightfoward. When he finally meets his enemies, he wants to monologue. He keeps his secrets by keeping silent in the shadows, All in all, he prefers to tell the truth - but he would absolutely not be above lying to make a vengeance plan work out. I'd love to see one of those go awry thanks to Wade at some point, although he hasn't really collected enough lasting negative CR to have anything currently in the works.
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Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Well, Jon ended his world by ACTUALLY summoning a bunch of eldritch beings to his world (he was used as an instrument and it was NOT what he wanted, quite the contrary) but he doesn't really lie about it and has told many people on board. He doesn't or wouldn't lie about it, though. More putting it out there given it might be a point of contention.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie?
He doesn't. He will sometimes hide things, but he doesn't actually lie very much at all.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Kepler is super SUPER angry at the world and doesn't like to admit that it's anything but a view of the 'bigger picture'. He's also deeply hurt and angry about the fact that his subordinate (who he also loves) betrayed him and why.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? As mentioned above... not that often. But kinda all the time. It's more of an all the time mask as opposed to individual lies.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Randel is so so scared and hates himself so much. He regularly lies about his comfort and happiness and accepts things he doesn't want to because he doesn't feel he deserves them.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Decently often to be 'polite'.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Sand has a lot of pent up emotional damage and hurt, not to mention a deep fear of being trapped and being unable to move that he does not deal with. Sometimes the way he lies is to make himself believe it as opposed to make someone else believe it. He has abandonment issues re: his mentor, frustration re: some things that happened on his team and his lovelife that he tends to smooth over.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Not much, other than to be polite and even then, he tries not to.
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Character name: Ford Pines
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so? Yes he absolutely can, and no there are no special circumstances, because a metal plate in your head doesn't help you with body language.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about? Nah, Ford's experienced enough of the Barge dragging up personal things that he's adopted a policy of radical honesty. He has given up on secrets.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie? Ford will literally only lie at this point to protect the wellbeing of family or friends against a hostile outside influence, most likely only in a port. He may be cagey about details of his romantic life that he'd find embarrassing to talk about, but even then it's more a "none of your business" kinda deal. Generally, if Ford's saying it, it's what he believes is the truth, even if it's embarrassing or doesn't make him look good.
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Character name: Steve Newlin
Can Wade tell when your character is lying? Any special circumstances that might prevent him from doing so?
Steve is VERY used to performing for the media, spinning a yarn and promoting whatever agenda he's currently hitched his wagon to. That said, on the Barge, he's relied more on misdirection or outright omitted details. (Except with Buffy. Cuz fanboy.) So it would be quite easy to catch him up or know in general when he's hiding something.
Are there any Deep Secrets™ your character has that you'd like brought to light? Anything they regularly lie about?
He'll lie about what the Fellowship of the Sun was really about or he'll spin it in such a way to make himself the better man instead of, well, a vampire-hating bigot who all but started his own cult. Also his own personal diet since being Turned. (Oh yea I totally drank only synthetic blood! Swearsies!) In more general terms, he tries to mask his emotions a lot, attempting to appear barely affected by things that bother him.
Generally speaking, how often does your character lie?
Hmmm. There's a lot he hides (particularly about Russell, the Vampire Authority, etc) or will outright avoid. Overall he prefers half-truths to outright lies. But his peachy-keen, good ol' boy aw shucks persona? Yea that's mostly a fabrication. It just helps there's a lot he doesn't know so once again, a lie wrapped in a half-truth topped off with a bow of charisma.